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Friday, September 14th, 2007
2:13 pm

randomfreya
Hello people! New person here.
I'm fourteen, I like some manga, but not to an obsessive level.

Here's my little anecdote.

I remember when I came to this new school, I ended up hanging out with this boy. I'd bought in my sketchbook, and there were some anime-ish pictures in there, and he instantly squeaked that he loves drawing (I later found out he was lying and he never drew as a hobby until he saw me drawing. Later on, I mentioned that I like Final Fantasy, so he instantly turned into an FF-fanboy).

He started to draw 'manga' and I ended up lending him some 'how to draw' books. I told him to ignore the two manga/anime ones, unless he wanted information on how to colour with markers, and read the others because they concentrate more on anatomy and form and things that'll help you draw real things.
I got the books back a few weeks later, along with a squealing manga fanboy who kept using fangirl Japanese. I asked about the non-manga book, and he said he didn't read it after he saw some almost naked people.

It got even more irritating as he started to look over my shoulder if I was drawing a little charicature and tell me it wasn't good manga, and have Squeaking Fits of Doom [tm] every time he saw me draw 'proper manga'. He started to play the Final Fantasy games because they're Japanese (I play them because I like the actual gameplay) and never even finished them because 'they weren't kawaii enough' *Headdesk* so he started to play Kingdom Hearts.

He brings anime/manga up every. Damn. Sentence.

He names all his characters with Japanese names, too, like 'Chiyuko'. Every time I see him he shoves his new manga and his pictures into my face and it drives me mad. And don't get me started on those accursed 'how to draw Manga/Anime' books...

I recently found out that he was hanging out on my dA profile without watching me, and apparently getting irate because I post too many photos, writing, and non-anime pictures.

He has massive fanboy crushes in the traditional okatu-fanboy-ways (SQUEE!, *glomp*, YAY!, KAWAII!, DESUUUU!)on anime characters, but mostly on Tom Felton (The boy who plays Draco Malfoy in the Harry Potter movies).

Oh, I forgot. Everyone who doesn't like manga/anime is seriously warped in his eyes.

So yeah. </rant>

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Wednesday, August 8th, 2007
3:17 am

neomonki
hey there. I just stumbled upon this place and at first I was a little shocked. But very soon I realized what the hell. We shouldn't be afraid to admit that there are people with seriously misplaced priorities.

I thought I'd give a little rant of my own. I like anime and manga. but not as much as I love video games. They both really fit in the same genre don't they? Anyway, I also just graduated from an amazing illustration program. (BAA - Illustration! go me) and they were the best 4 years I've ever spent.

there was a post below about a graphic designer? I can not even begin to tell you how hard it is not to leak brain fluid at amateur artists who ask me the dumbest questions when I'm in artist alleys. ( I still draw in an anime-ish style but that's what deviantart is for. I still keep a real portfolio with real illustration work that get me jobs. )

Some of the most common questions I get asked are:

- What type of brand of inking pen I use
- Do I preper copics or prismacolorsd
- how did I learn how to draw manga/anime
- can you look at my sketchbook and tell me how good I am?
- what type of marker paper do you use
- how do you paint with watercolour

They may seem like straight forward questions but having been involved with the art scene since I can remember, it frustrates me to no end hearing these questions. When people ask me how I learned to draw I tell them to go out and just DRAW. Don't open a bloody how to draw manga book. Don't enroll in art program expecting to learn how to draw anime.

DON'T USE "OH ITS JUST MY STYLE" as your bloody excuse when you draw.

ANime is a STYLE but it still requires SKILL.

People just don't realize that in order to draw ANYTHING you need to learn the basic principles such as anatomy and perspective. It drives me up the wall when I see people who don't really take the time to learn how to draw from real life. Instead that draw from other animes and other styles.

Ugh. I feel a bit elitist now. >_<;; I didn't mean to go off like that but it's basically how I feel these days. Going through Illustration changed me a whole hell of a lot. I truly feel for my professors when they groan at seeing another anime drawing.

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Thursday, June 7th, 2007
7:09 pm - Another new member.

nikkicub
I work in an anime store. Sometimes, I work at conventions.

I think that says it all, really.

Who wants to hear about my adventures at AKON?

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...that's really the only thing relating to the com. The rest is just Retail Pain x10. Although, yesterday we had random Naruto cosplayers in the store. Apparently, they dressed up as Sakura and Sasuka to go buy anime. What the hell?

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Monday, March 19th, 2007
3:00 pm - New Member

00patty
Hey guys, I used to be Wapanese and I live in Yokohama, Japan. I am currently studying Japanese at an intensive language school. I have been living in Japan for about 6 months now. While I am liking it here its not the the happy go lucky anime playland with hot schoolgirls at every corner that its made out to be by otakus. Its very disturbing how many people think this. It also isnt as clean as a country as its protrayed to be. I live in a gaijin house with horrible lighting and filthy bathrooms. Being a gamer I am very annoyed at at people who say that the Japanese are so much better at making video games than Americans (and anyone else). I think we are both good at making video games and I dont care about what country the game comes from, I care about how good it is. Not to change the topic to console fanboys/haters, which I hate both (i love all the systems), but it really bugs me how Japanophiles have to bash the Xbox(360) just because its American so that means it inferior to the much better Wii and PS3. It aslo angers me how many Japanophiles just come here to goof off. My room mate for example is supposed be going to the same school as me, but he just stays home and plays WoW all day, which has nothing to do with Japanophilia but oh well, or just goes fooling around in Shibuya or Roppongi. 

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Sunday, October 29th, 2006
11:01 pm - Greetings / The Definition of a Wapanese
soyongdori Hey guys. I am new here.

I have several topics I am going to post about within this community.
OK, first up. The Definition of a Wapanese.

I stumbled across the urbandictionary page and was browsing the definition for wapanese. Most of the definitions for wapanese were usually negative or comical, but then I ran across one this one, saying:

A highly derogatory term similar to wigger that pertains to any person, usually Caucasian, who esteems Japanese culture. Many people hold backward views of these individuals; they immediately associate them with animé and hentai. This is not the case, however; it is instead an example of how intolerant people are.

Generally, people think 'Wapanese' are young males under the age of twenty. People tend to think that these individuals live with their parents until their thirties... which I believe is a disgusting generalization.

The 'Wapanese' (which is a contraction for White Japanese or Wanna Be Japanese) simply feel that Japanese culture is intriguing. Many do not, as the populace stereotype, discard their heritage arbitrarily. Is a person of British decent who wants to learn Japanese, knowing that it will take years or decades, Wapanese if they eat traditional British food and use conversational English in their daily lives? Would one label them 'Wapanese' if they also enjoy watching anime and listening to J-Pop for the simple reason they consider it appealing?

The term 'Wapanese' is a slur used by insecure people to describe other people in cultural limbo. It is an example of the blatant stupidity people carry in their heads. 'Wapanese' is simply a cultural preference, if you may. It is an example of the narrow-mindedness many people posses.

'Wapanese' is a disgusting stereotype, alike to the notion that all Caucasian people who listen to hip-hop are wiggers. Both are grossly politically incorrect.



Now there is some truth at the beginning about how some people use the word Wapanese or even Japanophile. I do not think that someone who has casual or coincidental interest in something japanese can always be labeled a Wapanese/Japanophile. In fact, I believe that the terms 'Wapanese' and 'Japanophile', while closely related, are not always directly connected, in some cases, for example:

A person with an obsession over everything japanese minus the desire to become a japanese could be labeled a Japanophile by itself. A Wapanese is usually someone who desires to become Japanese typically based on a misguided perception of Japan. That being said, Japanophilia itself can exist independantly from the 'wapanese syndrome', though 'wapanese syndrome' itself almost ALWAYS stems from Japanophilia.

However, calling all of us stupid or insecure for using the term (provided it is used appropriately) is foolish. The author tries to manipulate people by making them feel guilty for not accepting Otaku's delusions, something which they themselves probably hold to.


That's it for now. There's more to come, so stick around. :P

current mood: thoughtful

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Wednesday, October 4th, 2006
5:04 pm - Fun quotes

nebachanezar
I just joined this community so I thought I would post some of the most disgusting quotes that I could think of. I know many otaku, and they always say stupid things related to Japan and or anime, but one friend has the ability to totally sicken me with her otaku-induced japanophilia. (needless to say I will have many more stories and quotes.) The first quote was from her first year of college, I was taking a night class with her because I was working full time at the time, but I was glad we were taking a class together. Unfortunately the class was Intro to Japanese History. The first night of class the teacher goes around the room asking why everyone is taking the class, she gets to my friend, my friend replies, "because I love Japan with all my heart." At this time the only exposure to Japan that she has had is years of obsessing over anime, manga, yaoi, and jrock in highschool. Another quote that made me sad on the inside was a few years latter when I was helping arrange a school study abroad to Japan, she says to me, "in Japan it will be like an anime convention everyday."

Also another thing she does which I'm not sure if anyone else has experience with is when she speaks Japanese (which she studies obsessively) she artificially raises the pitch of her voice to inhuman levels. I'm assuming because she wants to sound like the girls in anime? No one else I know Japanese or otherwise tries to sound so Japanese when they speak Japanese.

Thanks for letting me rant.

BTW, on the topic of otaku, I also go to college with the one and only duelin' dan: http://duelindan.ytmnd.com/

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Friday, September 29th, 2006
1:16 am - Me, Otaku?

reaperofflames
I do not wish to waste anyone's time. It is late at night/early in the morning and I was just cruising through my friend's journals, taking a little break from the 503 page book that I have to have read by Wednesday. Deep hurting.
Anyway, I like anime and manga. I mean, really like them. They're two of my favorite things in the world, actually. Does that make me an otaku? If I like the American and Japanese versions of Super Milk Chan equally, does that make me an otaku, or, as some people would say, an idiot?
I have noticed that Japanese anime contains some of the most creative concepts I've ever heard of. This is not to say that American culture is lacking creativity, far from it (Jhonen Vasquez, Trey Parker and Matt Stone, Genndy Tartokovsky, Craig McCracken, and Maxwell Atoms spring to mind. And those are only a few cartoonists), but, sadly, it is being held hostage by Britney Spears and *gulp* Paris Hilton. It is not healthy. I must admit, I would rather spend a day with otakus than five minutes with Ms. Hilton.
I guess what I am asking is, what is an otaku? How can I avoid becoming one? How can I help someone who is? Is it normal to want to projectile vomit out of every orifice at the mere mention of the words "Paris" and "Spears"?

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Tuesday, September 26th, 2006
5:26 pm - The Lonesome Cry of the Anti-Otaku <-sorry couldn't think of anything better lol what a lame title

burning_ghost
Hello it’s been some time since I posted here, but I thought I should contribute something in order to possibly get the ball dusted off and back rolling again. Also, I had some thoughts and feelings swimming around in my head, and I thought I’d just take the opportunity to write them out and share them with you all now at this community, since this is the ideal place for thoughts of such a nature. Bear with me this may get a bit lengthy, but I’ll try to cut it down and sum things up as much as I can manage to (I’m not known to be always very good at it, so you’re warned).

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In the meantime, this is what I felt like getting out of my system now. Let me just finish by adding that I do like the way this community has been going for the most part, I’ve read some interesting and funny discussions, some very good points being brought to light and a lot of scary-funny and very important to share personal Otaku encounter stories. Here’s to seeing this community only continue to grow and thrive in its activity (which sadly seems to be dwindling of lately as you can all see).

current mood: contemplative

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Wednesday, June 28th, 2006
1:43 pm - Hideo Kojima Says:

sugandya
My friend showed me this not too long ago. I thought you may find it of intrest, if you haven't seen this said already.

"If you talk about the war between Japanese developers and those overseas, I acknowledge that we have already lost. The Japanese creators have lost to the European and American creators. Therefore, I always say to my staff, Don't look at the Japanese creators. Look toward the Europeans and Americans when looking at development". -Hideo Kojima, creator of the Metal Gear Solid series

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I wonder how quickly gamers who find Japan the "most innovative of developers" and "the inventor of video games" changed their minds,  or even acknowledged it?  Because you know if Japan says so, it is correct.

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Wednesday, June 21st, 2006
1:10 pm - n00b

sugandya
Hello,
I saw this community and decided to join. In short: I hate otaku.  I don't care wether they're Japanese or non-Japanese, the culture creeps me out.
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As someone who is studying graphic design with illustration as my specialty, it's always annoying to see people who want to get into illustration study the "How to Draw Manga" books.  I've found them good for getting you in the mood to just draw, but they're a poor guide (that's another rant altogether).

And don't get me started on the copic marker (an illustration marker made in Japan generally used by mangaka who still use traditional media) fanbase; don't get me started...

Um, hi!

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Monday, May 29th, 2006
5:39 pm - A goldmine of painfully inane and garbled illiterate otaku-isms

burning_ghost
The other night my friend and I, during one of our near-nightly chatting sessions on MSN Messenger, got to discussing the badness of the popular kiddie anime Naruto (OMGblasphemy! I know!), highlighting just some of the negative points about the show and its characters. In order to support some of the points I was making, I pointed to some of the character descriptions as provided on the official section on the show on the website of a TV channel we get here in Canada that airs the show (mostly uncut, it should be noted), YTV. It's a youth-oriented station that showcases mostly youth-targeted shows, and some more adult fair late at night (like Ghost in the Shell). In doing that, we couldn't help but take notice of the comments from enthusiastic viewers that were scrolling along on the main page of this show, along with pages for other anime shows we, fuelled mostly by a trainwreckish curiosity/desire to find mock-worthy material to be amused by, felt compelled to inspect for ourselves. As we had anticipated, this proved a bad idea.

Now, before any of you may bring this point up, we *do* realise that since this is a youth-oriented TV station, most of the viewers would in all likelihood be children, 11 and under. Still, as I commented myself at one point in this conversation, I never typed (or spoke, for that matter) like that when I was that age. As I see it, there's just no real excuse for such stupidity and shallowness...maybe if they were say, 6 or something. Well anyway, I felt this was a good way to at least show how the fanbase for anime is getting younger and younger each day, and not to mention stupider and poorer in their grasp of basic grammar, spelling and the English vocabulary in general as well as how to conduct themselves.

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The really sad thing is, that so many of these people are probably *older* than 11. Some of them may even be as far into their late teens or 20s. I'm deducing this based on the fact I tend to observe (not by my own choosing, I'd *much* rather avoid these types of people most times, trust me) a lot of people on the internet (and outside of it for that matter) who speak and act very similarly to this, who are in their mid-to-late teens and older. Is anime fandom is such a bad state beyond any hope of repair that there is now some sort of *rule* that decrees that people who like anime should always act like immature, air-headed idiots who must always limit themselves to speaking like they have suffered from some sort of brain injury? I'd really like to know.

current mood: annoyed

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Friday, April 21st, 2006
9:36 pm
ex_sprightf I just found this, so yeah, I'm new too. Hi. Nice to meet you. :D I also do have an otaku-related rant, though, so I'm going to LJ-cut that.

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current mood: annoyed

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Sunday, March 19th, 2006
7:31 pm

animeninja
I was listening to "Roketto Dan yo Eien Ni" on my old Pocket Monsters CD I got two years ago and hardly listened to since until today, and I got to thinking: What is it with otaku constanly bitching about how terrible the dubbed anime voices of their favorite shows are even though their Japanese counterparts sound exactly the same (or in the case of Iria and CardCaptor Sakura, better)? Talk about turning a deaf ear, I suppose...

The worst examples I get are from Shaman King. Almost every single dub character sounds exactly like the corresponding character in the original, yet on every site I see things like "Morty’s voice actor, while he DOES do the acting incredibly well, the voice he uses here really doesn't quite fit cute little Manta" or "God, Anna sounds so terrible!" And as far as shows like Pokemon and InyYasha (cult coincidence? I think not) that could do better on their English audio, otaku praise it as the second coming.

I guess there are some things in this world I will never understand.

current mood: annoyed

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Wednesday, March 15th, 2006
10:41 am - moshi moshi! just kidding

roboticstimuli
i'm sure there's at least ONE actually asian person in here so...

do you ever get the "HURR HURR R U JAPANEEZ" deal a lot? it's like fuck you i'm chinese, and more importantly i'm fucking american, and NO i wasn't born there and NO i don't eat with chopsticks and put them in my hair when i'm done.

i'm making a shirt with a map of japan and labeling it "asia". why? because japan IS asia. all us chinese and koreans and phillipinos are just pretending, i'm japanese. or i guess here i'm just AZN. okay? i'm an AZN-american. (also half hispanic by trade).

so yes, reprezent, fight the good fight against creepy men at parties that take your heritage as a turn on, who fetishize our culture because they think it means we're subservient and willing to wear schoolgirl ourfits for them in bed.

DAMN IT I WILL NEVER EVER.

anyhow, yes. AZN PRIDE 4-EVA

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Thursday, February 16th, 2006
11:46 am - Exploiting the Otaku fanbase

heart_of_sword
As some of you may have read in the previous exchange, I briefly discussed with misha_z about exploiting Otaku's almost blind love for Anime. Interestingly enough, while I was watching CNN the other day, they had a piece on Japanese cafes that specifically cater to Otaku. Maid cafes apparently dot the Akihabara district in Tokyo and are specifically made for Otaku. The restaurants feature young women dressed as maids who refer to the customer as "Master" and go well beyond the call of duty and even spoon feed some customers. Also in the cafes are TV's that show anime and video games according to the CNN tv report.

This leads to two questions, the first being, "Is the American market of Otaku as easily exploitable?" Being that there are about 30 of these cafes in Tokyo's Akihabara district alone, I'd say they're quite popular, I'm curious if any business minded individuals might be planning something similar in say San Fransisco, Los Angeles, or another city with a heavy Japanese population. Even a city with a large Otaku fan base, such as (apparently) Baltimore, where Otakon is held every year would present a relatively large customer base that would most likely cream their pants at the opportunity. Obviousily, if you look at market trends, it's pretty easy to see that anime sells and that most Otaku are actually pretty blind to the quality of a product provided the product is related to their fandom.

The second question is, "Are Otaku really having this large of an impact on culture?" Obviously there are a lot of considerations to make when asking this question and relating it to the article since the cafes are in Japan, but provided that they are very popular there and could in theory be very popular here, are Otaku now a major part of the 13-18 (And even broader) marketing bracket? I think it'd be worthwhile to investigate how Otaku actually impact the market base of things such as DVDs, video games, etc to see their influence on said areas of popular culture and to made try and grasp the full brevity of the fan base's buying power and their affect on pop culture.

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Monday, February 13th, 2006
9:50 pm - ha

misha_z
Otaku are eating into the profits of Netflix!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/02/10/netflix.renters.ap/index.html

While the article doesn't specifically mention anime, that's Golden Boy playing on the (creepy) guy's TV in the background. Considering how many DVDs go into each anime series, I can see why Netflix would want to give bad service to super-renters.

It's yet another way otaku are harming society.

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Wednesday, February 8th, 2006
5:27 am - Valentine's Day MOETAN

yukinoitazuchi
MOETAN talking about "St. Valentine's Day" - here

(From the MOETAN CD, 08 Chapter 4-Don't be feeling so good about yourself!)

(MOETAN is a Japanese character who helps people learn English...kinda. I think anyone who likes funny things should listen to this. =))

X-posted

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Tuesday, February 7th, 2006
10:22 pm - OK, I'm Kinda Shy on Posting Here

yukinoitazuchi
OK, I'm kinda shy posting here because I like "anime" and some "manga", but I differientiate between "anime" and "manga" because I speak Japanese pretty much, so it might bleed into my Japanese lexicon. (Reference)Collapse )

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Saturday, February 4th, 2006
6:59 pm - Three months of Hell, and then some

animeninja
Bad relationships come and go, but the scars they leave can last a lifetime.

I don't know what I was thinking when I agreed to go steady with an established anime freak, but it's not something I'm proud of. This guy, whom I will refer to as "J," was completely into InuYasha (what anime "fan" isn't?), the latest PS2 releases (provided they were RPGs featuring big-eyed protagonists), swords, pocky, Adult Swim late-nights...you get the picture. His "fantasies" were all anime babes, he was into "role-playing," if you know what I mean...

Anyway, he knew I was somewhat into anime/manga/video games (because most people these days don't realize that I've been gradually losing interest in it), so he thought he'd found a match made in Heaven. It was fine for a while...but then, the otakuism started to take its toll. For example, he showed me his Japanese-tutorial CD-ROM (which is a program that gives audio examples of pronunciation and whatnot), and he was quizzing me on it...I pretended not to know a single word of Japanese, even though I had known much of the language at one time and was pretty good with pronunciations (though I still had an accent, naturally - I don't deny it). And there he is, sounding the phrases out word for word like "SUUU-PUUU-NN" for "spoon," and I'm holding my breath trying not to say to him, "Oh for the love of God, I can say that better" (sorry, I'm a recovering otaku myself, and I tend to have relapses every so often). And I'd like to add that the program was not taught by Japanese people, but by a Caucasian couple that had been to Japan and thought they'd make a few pretty pennies by catering to teenyboppers.

But the worst part of the ordeal was when he started imposing upon my career choices with his social illness. Now, I'm an aspiring cartoonist, and though much of my artwork is Japanese-influenced, it is by no means "manga" nor does it incorporate any of the typical manga cliches into its storyline. However, J simply could not get that through his head - he kept suggesting that I do certain things to "further my career," such as make it a web comic (something that has little success and is availible only to people with internet access), put more female characters in, put a love story in there...he might as well have been flipping through a TokyoPop promotional brochure. I asked him what credibility he had in telling me how to do my job, and he replied that he'd "talked to some web comic authors and..."

I tuned out right then and there. Long story short, he went around like he was God's gift to modern philosophy just because he watched Naruto regularly and people avoided him because of his "sophistication." I cannot even BEGIN to go into detail on the severity of his Wapanese affliction, because it makes me sick to think about. Now three months and six asprin later, here I am, with a suggestive LJ username I cannot change and a headache from all the life's lessons I learned:

Never date an otaku. They will seek to control you.

current mood: crappy

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Friday, January 27th, 2006
12:50 pm - The problem of fansubs

burning_ghost
Apologies in advance, but I just felt like venting a rant I have that concerns anime fandom and more specifically, certain anime fan practices, so thus I felt it belonged quite appropriately here at this community. I'll probably cross-post it to dub_support, one of the other anime-related communities I maintain. Anyways, here goes my little rant/mini-article of sorts for today:

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